Всё началось со сломанного датчика парктроника, снял, почистил его, в спирте подержал, поставил обратно и всё машина не заводится, вернее зажигания нет, коробка в блоке. И ошибка пищит. Через аварийку подключил Васю (окупил себя уже 10раз) ошибка по иммобилайзеру, скинул ошибку всё заработало, в чем причина хрен его знает 🙄
Датчик парктроника стал снова работать с косяками как и раньше, разрыв связи, но работает, ну и хрен с ним пока новый не придёт.
Утром завёл всё отлично, поездил, в обед заводил всё отлично. Сейчас вечером завожу всё хорошо, сижу, минут через 5,выскакивает опять эта же ошибка, на завнденной машине 😫
Подключаю Васю
Проблема такая после того как разрядился АКБ: машина иногда не заводится с первого раза, появляются ошибки и иногда пишет Steering column lock defective!
ошибки: Адрес 01: Электроника двигателя Label: Не найден
Part No SW: 06F 906 056 GN HW: 06F 906 056 EK
Компонент: MED9.5.10 G00 3369
Ревизия: 69H04— Серийный номер: VWZCZ000000000
Кодировка: 0000072
Мастерская #: WSC 00152 935 87441
VCID: 7BFF95A9438D
1 неисправность:
001299 — Неверный код иммобилайзера
P0513 — 008 — нелогичный сигнал — Непостоянно
Стоп-кадр:
Статус неисправности: 00101000
Приоритет неисправности: 0
Частота неисправности: 1
Пробег: 0 km
Отсчет времени: 0
Стоп-кадр:
Об/мин: 1400 /min
Нагрузка: 41.2 %
Скорость: 0.0 km/h
Температура: 29.0°C
Готовность: 1110 0101
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Адрес 25: Иммобилайзер Label: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 R HW: 3C0 959 433 R
Компонент: IMMO 042 0383
Ревизия: 00042000 Серийный номер: VWZCZ000000000
Мастерская #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 39734FA10931
Part No: 3C0 905 861 G
Компонент: ELV 027 0380
3C0905861G ELV 027 0380
1 неисправность:
02811 — Блок управления ELV (электронной блокирования рулевой колонки)-J764
014 — имеется неисправность/ошибка — Непостоянно
Стоп-кадр:
Статус неисправности: 00101110
Приоритет неисправности: 1
Частота неисправности: 1
Сброс счетчика: 58
Пробег: 47498 km
Отсчет времени: 0
Дата: 2000.00.00
Время: 09:31:53
Может кто подскажет что может быть?
Сразу скажу поиск изучил.
Самый главный вопрос: почему это произошло именно после разрядки АКБ и может необходимо адаптировать что-то после снятия и установки АКБ? И как адаптировать иммобилайзер?
Да, ключ второй пробовал.
Самое интересное это произошло 5 дней назад, после этого 1 день не заводилась с первого раза, потом все нормально было 1 день, потом снова проблемы и день нормально, а сегодня с утра со второго раза пустилась.
ENGINE WON’T START.
There was a time when a diesel engine starting fault was fairly simple to investigate. This is not the case with the B6 Passat. The starting process is controlled entirely by the engine ECU and not the driver. The glow plug ‘glow period’ is precisely set by the engine ECU according to parameters that it measures. The throttle is not involved in starting so pressing the fuel pedal has no effect on starting. There are a number of things that might cause a diesel Passat not to start but most of these are common to any diesel car.
Has the engine lost its cam or crank timing signal. If it has it will start but it will take a few more churns than normal.
Has the lift pump or tandem pump failed? Without fuel the engine won’t start.
This page is dedicated to the peculiar electronics involved in B6 Passat starting.
(This does not include KESSY)
There is no ignition key as such, just a Fob containing an immobiliser code chip. This is not related to door opening or the battery in the fob.
The fob is pushed into a hole in the dash which I’ll call the Ignition socket. It has several positions;
0. The fob is just in the hole, not pushed. No power is on as a result of this.
1. The fob is pushed to position 1. This is the ‘Radio on or accessory’ position.
2. The fob is pushed to position 2. This is the ignition on position and the dashboard symbols come on.
3. The fob is pushed to position 3. This is ‘Engine start’ position and the starter motor turns.
*Position 3 is spring loaded so when you stop pushing, the fob springs back to position 4.
4. Position 4 is really position 2 except the engine is now running.
If VW had left things like this, starting the car and investigating non-starting would be just like a traditional diesel car.
No radio function at position 1 would probably be a blown fuse.
No ignition at position 2 would probably be a faulty relay.
No starter action at position 3 would probably be a faulty relay or starter solenoid.
Unfortunately the Passat B6 designers made this system much more complicated. In fact the system is so complicated and involves so many electronic control units that fault finding can only be done using the dealer tools or a tool like VCDS. Some elements of repair cannot be done by any aftermarket tool and must be performed by VW dealers.
So if the engine won’t turn over on the starter motor, you need a diagnostic check. Not just a code read with a code reader, but a full read out of all self diagnostics. VCDS calls this an ‘autoscan’ to look for faults like these;
Control Circuit; Relay for Supply Voltage Terminal 15
Supply Voltage (Terminal 50)
Activation power supply relay (terminal 50)
Starter activation, return Message terminal 50, implausible signal
Starter activation, return message terminal 50, short to B+
Starter activation, return message terminal 50, short to ground/open circuit
If the engine turns over on the starter motor but won’t start, you need a diagnostic check. Not just a code read with a code reader, but a full read out of all self diagnostics. VCDS calls this an ‘autoscan’ to look for faults like these;
Release Terminal 15
Terminal 15, switching on
Terminal 15, switching off
Power Supply (B+) Terminal 15, Low Voltage
If the engine won’t start you don’t really need these codes because it will be obvious if terminal 15 is staying off, the dash symbols won’t light up with ignition or start.
STEERING COLUMN LOCK PROBLEMS.
Below are just some of the codes that might show up to warn you of starting failure due to steering column lock problems.
They usually show up in; Address 25: Immobilizer
Control Module for Electronic Steering Column Lock (J764) 014 – Defective — Intermittent
Steering Column Lock, supply voltage terminal 30
Function Limitation of Steering Column Lock, Low Voltage
Function Limitation of Steering Column Lock, High Voltage
Steering Column Lock; supply voltage for motor
Steering Column Lock; Enabling by Diagnostic Interface
Steering Column Lock; Enabling by Electronics Steering Wheel
Steering Column Lock; Enabling for Electronic Ignition Lock 009 — Open or Short to Ground — Intermittent
Communication between Electronic Steering Column Lock and electrical ignition
Electronic Steering Column Lock not adapted
Electronic Steering Column Lock switched itself off
Electronic Steering Column Lock Incorrectly Installed
Requirements for Locking the Steering Column Lock not met
Electronic Steering Column Lock, function-lock
Supply Voltage for Electronic Steering Column Lock Motor
Motor for Electronic Steering Column Lock (V334)
Electronic Steering Column Lock, release by Diagnostic Interface
Electronic Steering Column Lock, release by Electronics Steering Wheel
Communication between Electronic Steering Column Lock and Comfort System
Electronic Steering Column Lock 008 — Implausible Signal — Intermittent
Sometimes no codes show at all.
These are codes telling you that the CAN system is not communicating correctly.
Communication between Electronic Steering Column Lock and electrical ignition
Communication between Electronic Steering Column Lock and Comfort System
Here is a VCDS scan result for a faulty steering lock;
Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 DP HW: 028 101 274 2
Component: R4 1,9L EDC 000SG 7870
Revision: —H01— Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
005488 — Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 — 000 — — Intermittent
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 213117 km
Time Indication: 0
Bin. Bits: 11000100
Bin. Bits: 11000000
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
Address 16: Steering wheel
Cannot be reached
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AB HW: 3C0 959 433 AB
Component: IMMO 043 0383
Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 00449 210 82595
Part No: 3C0 905 861 C
Component: ELV 023 0350
3C0905861C ELV 023 0350
02823 — Requirements for Locking the Steering Column Lock not met
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 79
Mileage: 213117 km
Time Indication: 0
02861 — Electronic Steering Column Lock Check Sum Error
008 — Implausible Signal — Intermittent
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 78
Mileage: 212466 km
Time Indication: 0
If you have never disturbed the wiring or control units, they are probably ok. Electronic control units are pretty reliable these days.
Moving parts are far more likely to be a problem. The Ignition fob socket and the steering lock unit both contain moving parts.
IGNITION FOB SOCKET.
Mechanical problems with this are usually obvious because the key fob won’t stay in the socket. Try another key to see if the main key is worn. If this doesn’t work, the socket probably needs replacing.
STEERING LOCK UNIT.
The picture above shows the position of the steering lock on the steering column.
The steering lock contains a small motor to release the steering column lock catch. It is a common failure on B6 Passats.
HOW IT WORKS.
The picture below shows the Electronic Steering Column Lock with the motor and gear wheel removed.
I am using this picture to explain how the lock works.
I have marked two micro switches as ‘A’ and ‘B’. (‘B’ is part hidden by the lock frame.)
The two lock peg switch actuators are marked ‘a’ and ‘b’. (‘a’ is mostly hidden by the metal frame.)
The picture shows the lock in the process of being unlocked. At this stage it is mechanically unlocked but the car doesn’t know that for sure.
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